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		<title>By: You sure you can wear all those hats? &#171; The HR Intern</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/strategic/its-about-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-4026</link>
		<dc:creator>You sure you can wear all those hats? &#171; The HR Intern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] talking social media, as an HR guy, you gotta jump in and be a marketer &#8211; after all, isn&#8217;t HR just internal marketing? You should play the &#8220;employer branding&#8221; card and get your name out there on the PR [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] talking social media, as an HR guy, you gotta jump in and be a marketer &#8211; after all, isn&#8217;t HR just internal marketing? You should play the &#8220;employer branding&#8221; card and get your name out there on the PR [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Providing insight or hidden by pillars? The future role of HR &#171; Don&#39;t Compromise!</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/strategic/its-about-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-3341</link>
		<dc:creator>Providing insight or hidden by pillars? The future role of HR &#171; Don&#39;t Compromise!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is included. The HR blogs are already exploring these topics – see for example HR Bartender’s It’s About Marketing and Brand for Talent’s Is HR the New Marketing? – and as Ulrich pointed out in his People [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is included. The HR blogs are already exploring these topics – see for example HR Bartender’s It’s About Marketing and Brand for Talent’s Is HR the New Marketing? – and as Ulrich pointed out in his People [...]</p>
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		<title>By: to HR, on news of your death — free-range communication</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/strategic/its-about-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-1576</link>
		<dc:creator>to HR, on news of your death — free-range communication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] now that you’re waking up to the idea that it’s all about marketing, it may not be me doing the stalking. i can’t help you with all your challenges, but i can help [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now that you’re waking up to the idea that it’s all about marketing, it may not be me doing the stalking. i can’t help you with all your challenges, but i can help [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Leete</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/strategic/its-about-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Leete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bartender,

I think the &quot;rebranding&quot; meme is one based in a fundamental lack of understanding about technology. HR has never really been known as a bastion of technologically progressive thinking, and with the concept of the profile having developed so far beyond just the &quot;resume&quot; or personnel folder, HR groups are being viewed as behind the times and in need of &quot;rebranding&quot; or a metamorphosis. 

I tend to think that its simpler than that - HR needs training. Ironic, as corporate training often falls somewhere in HR, but its true. Companies need to recognize a paradigm change in how their employees and potential employees are communicating, and how it affects established rules, practices, and standards within HR. The farthest most have gone is to include &quot;e-harassment&quot; as part of their Harassment and Discrimination Policy. Training needs to include the basics &quot;what is the internet&quot; and &quot;what does blog stand for&quot;, as well as the more subtle things like sourcing on Linkedin and posting jobs to Twitter and Facebook. Recognizing the need to add text messaging as a part of their talent communication standards. All of these things are important in the grander scheme of things, but most of all, the HR group/company/vendor that can figure out a curriculum for this type of training of internal HR professionals stands to make a lot of money, and will be in business for the foreseeable future. 

-Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bartender,</p>
<p>I think the &#8220;rebranding&#8221; meme is one based in a fundamental lack of understanding about technology. HR has never really been known as a bastion of technologically progressive thinking, and with the concept of the profile having developed so far beyond just the &#8220;resume&#8221; or personnel folder, HR groups are being viewed as behind the times and in need of &#8220;rebranding&#8221; or a metamorphosis. </p>
<p>I tend to think that its simpler than that &#8211; HR needs training. Ironic, as corporate training often falls somewhere in HR, but its true. Companies need to recognize a paradigm change in how their employees and potential employees are communicating, and how it affects established rules, practices, and standards within HR. The farthest most have gone is to include &#8220;e-harassment&#8221; as part of their Harassment and Discrimination Policy. Training needs to include the basics &#8220;what is the internet&#8221; and &#8220;what does blog stand for&#8221;, as well as the more subtle things like sourcing on Linkedin and posting jobs to Twitter and Facebook. Recognizing the need to add text messaging as a part of their talent communication standards. All of these things are important in the grander scheme of things, but most of all, the HR group/company/vendor that can figure out a curriculum for this type of training of internal HR professionals stands to make a lot of money, and will be in business for the foreseeable future. </p>
<p>-Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: hr bartender</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/strategic/its-about-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-1496</link>
		<dc:creator>hr bartender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big thank you to everyone for the comments.  I definitely agree that in order for companies to have successful talent strategies, recruiting processes and employee engagement programs, HR needs to develop a marketing mentality.

Now, here’s my question: several bloggers have recently questioned the viability or been pondering the “rebranding” of human resources.  Is it possible the rebranding metamorphosis being discussed is really the need for a shift to running HR like a marketing department?  

I’d love to hear your thoughts…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big thank you to everyone for the comments.  I definitely agree that in order for companies to have successful talent strategies, recruiting processes and employee engagement programs, HR needs to develop a marketing mentality.</p>
<p>Now, here’s my question: several bloggers have recently questioned the viability or been pondering the “rebranding” of human resources.  Is it possible the rebranding metamorphosis being discussed is really the need for a shift to running HR like a marketing department?  </p>
<p>I’d love to hear your thoughts…</p>
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		<title>By: leanneclc</title>
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		<dc:creator>leanneclc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep - I&#039;m from Marketing and I have jumped the fence into the HR/recruiting sphere - because there are so many similarities.  HR really needs to think about how they &quot;market&quot; to their audience.  Talent.  

Right now I feel HR thinks they are somehow superior or in the driver&#039;s seat.  But it&#039;s a relationship.  Marketers/sales people get that.  You need to establish a relationship with talent, before they&#039;ll trust you.    Perhaps that&#039;s also why there are so many articles about how HR is dead or failing these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; I&#8217;m from Marketing and I have jumped the fence into the HR/recruiting sphere &#8211; because there are so many similarities.  HR really needs to think about how they &#8220;market&#8221; to their audience.  Talent.  </p>
<p>Right now I feel HR thinks they are somehow superior or in the driver&#8217;s seat.  But it&#8217;s a relationship.  Marketers/sales people get that.  You need to establish a relationship with talent, before they&#8217;ll trust you.    Perhaps that&#8217;s also why there are so many articles about how HR is dead or failing these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Zambon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Zambon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see this topic is starting to gain traction, as I believe it carries a lot of weight. I also recently wrote about the importance of employer/employment brand, which validates the growing need of marketingesque requirements HR is now faced with and must consider. (Check it out: http://blog.yoh.com/2009/09/employment-brand-how-important-is-it.html)

With the evolution of social networking, many reports/studies have show the correlation between an employee&#039;s perception of a company or organization, the means they have to make this perception public knowledge, and the weight and impact this perception carries in the marketplace on the organization in question. With these reports showing a generally negative opinion of employers by employees, this is a matter which HR will need to address sooner than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see this topic is starting to gain traction, as I believe it carries a lot of weight. I also recently wrote about the importance of employer/employment brand, which validates the growing need of marketingesque requirements HR is now faced with and must consider. (Check it out: <a href="http://blog.yoh.com/2009/09/employment-brand-how-important-is-it.html)" rel="nofollow">http://blog.yoh.com/2009/09/employment-brand-how-important-is-it.html)</a></p>
<p>With the evolution of social networking, many reports/studies have show the correlation between an employee&#8217;s perception of a company or organization, the means they have to make this perception public knowledge, and the weight and impact this perception carries in the marketplace on the organization in question. With these reports showing a generally negative opinion of employers by employees, this is a matter which HR will need to address sooner than later.</p>
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