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	<title>Comments on: Work/Life Balance</title>
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		<title>By: SH</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/worklife-balance/comment-page-1/#comment-1275</link>
		<dc:creator>SH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Formerly (female) Human Resources Manager at GE.   I believe the culture has changed since Welch left  for the better.   During the Welch regime, GE always came first before family.  After Welch, Immelt  made an attempt to listen to his workforce through his town hall meetings with the goal of bringing  GE out of the dark ages in terms of work/life balance.   Very, very high divorce rate at GE amongst the managerial group (mostly men).  To get ahead and stay in the &quot;top ten&quot; group, you were expected to be extremely flexible and willing to relocate every two years in a new job despite the impact on marriage and family. I don&#039;t think Welch gets it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Formerly (female) Human Resources Manager at GE.   I believe the culture has changed since Welch left  for the better.   During the Welch regime, GE always came first before family.  After Welch, Immelt  made an attempt to listen to his workforce through his town hall meetings with the goal of bringing  GE out of the dark ages in terms of work/life balance.   Very, very high divorce rate at GE amongst the managerial group (mostly men).  To get ahead and stay in the &#8220;top ten&#8221; group, you were expected to be extremely flexible and willing to relocate every two years in a new job despite the impact on marriage and family. I don&#8217;t think Welch gets it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Deirdre</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/worklife-balance/comment-page-1/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>Deirdre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t disagree with Jack&#039;s comments at all.  I think it is a misconception that there is  worklife balance and that people are entitled to it.  

My husband served in the Navy for 22 years.  The Navy never asked me how I felt about moving, losing career momentum, handling six -10 month deployments alone, having no contact with my spouse for long periods of time, etc.   We spent 7 years, me on the West Coast and he on the East Coast so I could have some sort of career.  Those were OUR CHOICES  so I could get ahead too.  

I shouldn&#039;t have to pick up extra work because of choices other people make.  And I would have no expectation that all playing surfaces are flat and equal for everyone.  They aren&#039;t.  

I think we need more matter-of-factness in some situations and less appeasement.   We all make choices and we should all own them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with Jack&#8217;s comments at all.  I think it is a misconception that there is  worklife balance and that people are entitled to it.  </p>
<p>My husband served in the Navy for 22 years.  The Navy never asked me how I felt about moving, losing career momentum, handling six -10 month deployments alone, having no contact with my spouse for long periods of time, etc.   We spent 7 years, me on the West Coast and he on the East Coast so I could have some sort of career.  Those were OUR CHOICES  so I could get ahead too.  </p>
<p>I shouldn&#8217;t have to pick up extra work because of choices other people make.  And I would have no expectation that all playing surfaces are flat and equal for everyone.  They aren&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>I think we need more matter-of-factness in some situations and less appeasement.   We all make choices and we should all own them.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally Bock</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/worklife-balance/comment-page-1/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally Bock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welch was right that it&#039;s about choices. Talking about &quot;balance&quot; implies that there&#039;s some kind of right way to live your life. Not only isn&#039;t there &quot;one best way,&quot; the best way of the moment changes at different stages in your life. I would rather see the conversation structured around choices and the life mix, instead of balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welch was right that it&#8217;s about choices. Talking about &#8220;balance&#8221; implies that there&#8217;s some kind of right way to live your life. Not only isn&#8217;t there &#8220;one best way,&#8221; the best way of the moment changes at different stages in your life. I would rather see the conversation structured around choices and the life mix, instead of balance.</p>
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		<title>By: China Gorman</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/worklife-balance/comment-page-1/#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>China Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for revisiting this, Sharlyn.  I, too, did not take offense from his comments.  I thought them extremely realistic and more of a &quot;state the obvious&quot; comment than a message purely for women.  Because the interviewer had just written an excellent book, Womenomics, I think the conversation turned specifically to women in the workplace and that&#039;s when the controversy started.  I love it that the conversation persists because it points out a significant need in the workplace:  policies and practices that allow families to thrive.  Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for revisiting this, Sharlyn.  I, too, did not take offense from his comments.  I thought them extremely realistic and more of a &#8220;state the obvious&#8221; comment than a message purely for women.  Because the interviewer had just written an excellent book, Womenomics, I think the conversation turned specifically to women in the workplace and that&#8217;s when the controversy started.  I love it that the conversation persists because it points out a significant need in the workplace:  policies and practices that allow families to thrive.  Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Susanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a problem with Welch&#039;s message on this topic. (Although I&#039;m generally not a fan)  We all make choices and there are always sacrifices and consequences for all of our choices.  What is acceptable for one won&#039;t be for another, and that should be OK.   

Employers have the right to determine their expectations for performance and availability for all jobs, and employees have the right to seek employment that meets their needs.  I have always worked full time, while raising one child (I stopped at one intentionally, because I knew I would always work full time -- so there&#039;s a choice I made).     My husband and I have balanced jobs and family well, with only minor impact on either of our careers and I don&#039;t think any real impact on our family.  But still, there were choices.   I intentionally chose jobs that had limited travel; he intentionally changed industries to work a &quot;normal&quot; schedule.    We&#039;re OK with those choices.

What annoys me is parents who request reduced work schedules, and are granted same, yet still expect to be given the same consideration for promotions as their non-reduced schedule counterparts.    Making the decision to take family-friendly schedules is a choice.   Those of us who don&#039;t ask for that perk are making the choice to forgo more time with our families.     So I might expect to move up a little faster because I&#039;ve put in the time.   It just is what it is.     Own your choices!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with Welch&#8217;s message on this topic. (Although I&#8217;m generally not a fan)  We all make choices and there are always sacrifices and consequences for all of our choices.  What is acceptable for one won&#8217;t be for another, and that should be OK.   </p>
<p>Employers have the right to determine their expectations for performance and availability for all jobs, and employees have the right to seek employment that meets their needs.  I have always worked full time, while raising one child (I stopped at one intentionally, because I knew I would always work full time &#8212; so there&#8217;s a choice I made).     My husband and I have balanced jobs and family well, with only minor impact on either of our careers and I don&#8217;t think any real impact on our family.  But still, there were choices.   I intentionally chose jobs that had limited travel; he intentionally changed industries to work a &#8220;normal&#8221; schedule.    We&#8217;re OK with those choices.</p>
<p>What annoys me is parents who request reduced work schedules, and are granted same, yet still expect to be given the same consideration for promotions as their non-reduced schedule counterparts.    Making the decision to take family-friendly schedules is a choice.   Those of us who don&#8217;t ask for that perk are making the choice to forgo more time with our families.     So I might expect to move up a little faster because I&#8217;ve put in the time.   It just is what it is.     Own your choices!</p>
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		<title>By: ndslotnick</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/worklife-balance/comment-page-1/#comment-1253</link>
		<dc:creator>ndslotnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agreed with Jack Welch&#039;s basic premise. I didn&#039;t think that they were sexist, but still thought it was sad that his follow up comments centered on women making these choices.  Men also make work-life choices. Sometimes they choose to be the one to take the couple of years off to raise kids and sometimes they make the decision to allow their wives to do the child rearing while they put the job ahead of family.  Some have implied that Jack Welch chose the latter and that that is why he is on his 3rd marriage.  I don&#039;t think it is my place to judge, but I would venture that that is a distinct possibility.  Hopefully, most men and women are learning to achieve a win-win mix of work and family responsibilities that works for both them and their families.

I was a little older when I married, and definitely remember expectations that I be the one to fill in because of someone&#039;s else&#039;s family responsibilities - and I was in the Army where the tongue-in-cheek comment about family responsbilities used to be that &quot;if the Army had wanted you to have a wife/husband/child, they would have issued you one.&quot;

I took a few years away from full-time employment, when my son was born.  It was a decision I always knew I would make.  I definitely lost career &quot;momentum&quot; as a result and my military career was never the same when I went back.  I believe that the impact on my potential for advancement was permanent.  However, being home with him for those first few years was something that I placed a high value on.  I believe that it will have a lasting, positive impact on the man my son becomes, so for me, it was the right decision and one I will never regret.  

By the way, when I went back into the Army, my husband was leaving salaried employment to start a business - the one we now run together.  In our situation, he was working from home, and took over primary child-care responsbilities, which he balanced fairly well with the demands of owning a business while I was suddenly working 12-14 hour days, 6 days a week.  My son got to experience both of us being the primary caregiver at different times in his childhood.  I think that that will also positively affect the man he becomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agreed with Jack Welch&#8217;s basic premise. I didn&#8217;t think that they were sexist, but still thought it was sad that his follow up comments centered on women making these choices.  Men also make work-life choices. Sometimes they choose to be the one to take the couple of years off to raise kids and sometimes they make the decision to allow their wives to do the child rearing while they put the job ahead of family.  Some have implied that Jack Welch chose the latter and that that is why he is on his 3rd marriage.  I don&#8217;t think it is my place to judge, but I would venture that that is a distinct possibility.  Hopefully, most men and women are learning to achieve a win-win mix of work and family responsibilities that works for both them and their families.</p>
<p>I was a little older when I married, and definitely remember expectations that I be the one to fill in because of someone&#8217;s else&#8217;s family responsibilities &#8211; and I was in the Army where the tongue-in-cheek comment about family responsbilities used to be that &#8220;if the Army had wanted you to have a wife/husband/child, they would have issued you one.&#8221;</p>
<p>I took a few years away from full-time employment, when my son was born.  It was a decision I always knew I would make.  I definitely lost career &#8220;momentum&#8221; as a result and my military career was never the same when I went back.  I believe that the impact on my potential for advancement was permanent.  However, being home with him for those first few years was something that I placed a high value on.  I believe that it will have a lasting, positive impact on the man my son becomes, so for me, it was the right decision and one I will never regret.  </p>
<p>By the way, when I went back into the Army, my husband was leaving salaried employment to start a business &#8211; the one we now run together.  In our situation, he was working from home, and took over primary child-care responsbilities, which he balanced fairly well with the demands of owning a business while I was suddenly working 12-14 hour days, 6 days a week.  My son got to experience both of us being the primary caregiver at different times in his childhood.  I think that that will also positively affect the man he becomes.</p>
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		<title>By: Puf</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myself and Mrs. Puf are confirmed non-breeders, and we used to be asked to pick up extra work in order to allow the breeders time with their families.  What we realized, was exactly what you point out, we have choices to make.  I think for us, the fact that we didn&#039;t rush into our choices and worked a long term plan, it&#039;s paid off.  We both are strong earners, and have a great work/life balance.  We focus on results, and working where that matters.
Just my 2 cents.  We&#039;ll it&#039;s 2nd Friday, so let&#039;s call it 1.5 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myself and Mrs. Puf are confirmed non-breeders, and we used to be asked to pick up extra work in order to allow the breeders time with their families.  What we realized, was exactly what you point out, we have choices to make.  I think for us, the fact that we didn&#8217;t rush into our choices and worked a long term plan, it&#8217;s paid off.  We both are strong earners, and have a great work/life balance.  We focus on results, and working where that matters.<br />
Just my 2 cents.  We&#8217;ll it&#8217;s 2nd Friday, so let&#8217;s call it 1.5 cents.</p>
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