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		<title>By: Hrjefe</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/help-a-reader-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1521</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrjefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being fairly new to SM the thing I enjoy most is that I get to see both sides of people (for the most part). The interacts on Twitter are just like conversations I have in the office. We talk about work and ordinal stuff and most of the time that&#039;s what bonds us as a team. 

I love to here tweets about what fun thing someone did that day or what sports game they are watching. To me these insights provide depth to a person and adds substance for tweets with a wide rage of people. 

To be (me) or not to be (me) that is the question - only you can decide!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being fairly new to SM the thing I enjoy most is that I get to see both sides of people (for the most part). The interacts on Twitter are just like conversations I have in the office. We talk about work and ordinal stuff and most of the time that&#8217;s what bonds us as a team. </p>
<p>I love to here tweets about what fun thing someone did that day or what sports game they are watching. To me these insights provide depth to a person and adds substance for tweets with a wide rage of people. </p>
<p>To be (me) or not to be (me) that is the question &#8211; only you can decide!</p>
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		<title>By: hr bartender</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/help-a-reader-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1517</link>
		<dc:creator>hr bartender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to everyone for your comments and suggestions.  Looks like Jim might have a lot to think about.  

While one answer to the situation could be having separate accounts, I wonder if that really accomplishes the goal.  I’ve found an advantage to social media is that people get to see me as a complete person…not just a work persona.  

For example, I’ve found people who had a perception that the Human Resources Director was all business.  Once people were able to see me in a more casual setting and realized I’m not perfect and had a sense of humor, it did help to build stronger working relationships. 

I can’t help but think a happy medium exists where you can maintain your professional brand while still showing people that you’re human.  But if you have to ask yourself, “Should I post this?” Then the answer is probably no.  Not because it’s offensive.  But because you’re not completely comfortable showing that side of yourself yet.

For me, I’m just glad that no one asked me to explain the joke.  LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone for your comments and suggestions.  Looks like Jim might have a lot to think about.  </p>
<p>While one answer to the situation could be having separate accounts, I wonder if that really accomplishes the goal.  I’ve found an advantage to social media is that people get to see me as a complete person…not just a work persona.  </p>
<p>For example, I’ve found people who had a perception that the Human Resources Director was all business.  Once people were able to see me in a more casual setting and realized I’m not perfect and had a sense of humor, it did help to build stronger working relationships. </p>
<p>I can’t help but think a happy medium exists where you can maintain your professional brand while still showing people that you’re human.  But if you have to ask yourself, “Should I post this?” Then the answer is probably no.  Not because it’s offensive.  But because you’re not completely comfortable showing that side of yourself yet.</p>
<p>For me, I’m just glad that no one asked me to explain the joke.  LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Haun</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/help-a-reader-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1516</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance Haun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a fan of ideas for using social media that take personality away from people. Unfortunately, I think a lot of the ultra PC and keep it professional advice is robbing Twitter of interesting users to follow. Now I don&#039;t want to follow a train wreck necessarily but I honestly find myself interacting and connecting with people that show a real, imperfect personality. 

So if I go to a pub and they tap a new brew, I&#039;m probably going to tweet it. If my favorite basketball team wins or if something political comes up that I don&#039;t like, I am going to post it. And I am probably not going to do it right 100% of the time. Most of the places I&#039;ve worked at aren&#039;t perfect either and understand this.

People who approach a blog or twitter as a resume are basically unreadable though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a fan of ideas for using social media that take personality away from people. Unfortunately, I think a lot of the ultra PC and keep it professional advice is robbing Twitter of interesting users to follow. Now I don&#8217;t want to follow a train wreck necessarily but I honestly find myself interacting and connecting with people that show a real, imperfect personality. </p>
<p>So if I go to a pub and they tap a new brew, I&#8217;m probably going to tweet it. If my favorite basketball team wins or if something political comes up that I don&#8217;t like, I am going to post it. And I am probably not going to do it right 100% of the time. Most of the places I&#8217;ve worked at aren&#8217;t perfect either and understand this.</p>
<p>People who approach a blog or twitter as a resume are basically unreadable though.</p>
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		<title>By: K Funk</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/help-a-reader-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1513</link>
		<dc:creator>K Funk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the question that Jim needs to ask himself regarding any conversation piece in his use of SM is, &quot;will this add value to my profile/relationship - personal or professional?&quot;  If the answer is &quot;no&quot; then leave it out, whether in the job market or not, because let&#039;s face it, most of us never really know when we may be in the job market.  If the personal information does add value, i.e. - talking about a team he is leading for an event for a  non-profit organization or special cause that is a passion of his, I would say definitely adds value to who he is, and should be added/discussed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the question that Jim needs to ask himself regarding any conversation piece in his use of SM is, &#8220;will this add value to my profile/relationship &#8211; personal or professional?&#8221;  If the answer is &#8220;no&#8221; then leave it out, whether in the job market or not, because let&#8217;s face it, most of us never really know when we may be in the job market.  If the personal information does add value, i.e. &#8211; talking about a team he is leading for an event for a  non-profit organization or special cause that is a passion of his, I would say definitely adds value to who he is, and should be added/discussed.</p>
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		<title>By: adowling</title>
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		<dc:creator>adowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the old rule of thumb of if you dont want it printed on the front page of your local paper or told to your grandmother, dont say it, type it or repeat it. SM is about being yourself and if your into politics and want to talk it then talk about it. Just be aware that anything you say on the internet can be traced back to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the old rule of thumb of if you dont want it printed on the front page of your local paper or told to your grandmother, dont say it, type it or repeat it. SM is about being yourself and if your into politics and want to talk it then talk about it. Just be aware that anything you say on the internet can be traced back to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Leete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Leete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel makes a number of good points. 

I would like to add another scenario however, that &quot;working Jim&quot; might find himself coming across in his work SM world. Let&#039;s say Jim hears the pirate joke given, and tells it to his colleague, who is also on say, Twitter, and then goes and posts a shorthand version with a &quot;via @Jim&quot; tag.  Now Jim is directly connected to a moderately NSFW joke in his professional SM network. I think Joel&#039;s point above about common sense and keeping it simple is right on, but the question of personal vs professional lives in SM as much about what you do yourself, as what your network and friends so in relation to you. Its this second or third person posting of information, tagging of quotes or photos, and a myriad of other references or story telling that can get one into trouble, and that one needs to not only be aware of their own posts, pictures, etc. but also those of their network and friends as they pertain to him. I think the SM era is best defined as &quot;Oh what a tangled [world wide] web we weave&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel makes a number of good points. </p>
<p>I would like to add another scenario however, that &#8220;working Jim&#8221; might find himself coming across in his work SM world. Let&#8217;s say Jim hears the pirate joke given, and tells it to his colleague, who is also on say, Twitter, and then goes and posts a shorthand version with a &#8220;via @Jim&#8221; tag.  Now Jim is directly connected to a moderately NSFW joke in his professional SM network. I think Joel&#8217;s point above about common sense and keeping it simple is right on, but the question of personal vs professional lives in SM as much about what you do yourself, as what your network and friends so in relation to you. Its this second or third person posting of information, tagging of quotes or photos, and a myriad of other references or story telling that can get one into trouble, and that one needs to not only be aware of their own posts, pictures, etc. but also those of their network and friends as they pertain to him. I think the SM era is best defined as &#8220;Oh what a tangled [world wide] web we weave&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joel A White</title>
		<link>http://www.hrbartender.com/2009/recruiting/help-a-reader-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1508</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel A White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You left out some VERY important information:  Is Jim using SM sites during and from work/pc?, Is Jim&#039;s login name work connected?  Let&#039;s assume it&#039;s from personal pc with personal login.

Let&#039;s work this out backward, first.  

If you want to have a personal social media experience, then create a personal social media name, etc...and use that to comment on off color jokes.

If you use a social media persona for and from your professional position, then keep that work related or at the very least, above the &quot;personal&quot; arena.

Let&#039;s clarify something here:  EVERYTHING about who you are, who you were, your &quot;personas&quot; and your public hobbies and activities are fair game for employers, WITH THE FOLLOWING CAVEAT,  that the information cannot be utilized to negatively impact any of the protected classes (big etc.. here) in the pre employment process; or the employee/employer relationship for the above reasons.

It&#039;s the same thing as &quot;stupid questions to ask during a job interview&quot;...not illegal, but stupid, in that the use or appearance of use to wrongfully discriminate (as explained above) is against the law.  If I don&#039;t know you are married with 12 kids, I can&#039;t use (or appear to use) that information to deny you employment because you will negatively impact my group benefits.  But if you show up to your interview with your wife and 12 kids left in the reception area, I now am aware of that information, but precluded from having it become a factor in my hiring decision.

If you place something out there on SM sites/activities (such as your picture which obviously shows your age), it doesn&#039;t mean you are waiving (which you can&#039;t) your protection under the law from unlawful discrimination.

Makes our job as HR professionals real fun, huh?!

Ok, now say you are already employed like Jim.

If Jim goes to the local tavern four nights every week and drinks himself into a stuper, telling off color jokes and acting poorly; can Jim be fired or disciplined at work for this behavior?

If Jim calls his friends to come to his office after hours for drinks and off color jokes, can he be disciplined for what he says then?

Social Media has upped the ante, and yes, probably opened a few cans of worms for Human Resources.  Yet, let&#039;s not forget that most of these scenarios existed prior to Social Media.  We are just now seeing more of them.

If you are a manager of people, the question should be whether you can be a leader to your Team after this very public behavior at which your identity is obvious.

Use common sense....just like before, except now you have even more potential situations to practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You left out some VERY important information:  Is Jim using SM sites during and from work/pc?, Is Jim&#8217;s login name work connected?  Let&#8217;s assume it&#8217;s from personal pc with personal login.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s work this out backward, first.  </p>
<p>If you want to have a personal social media experience, then create a personal social media name, etc&#8230;and use that to comment on off color jokes.</p>
<p>If you use a social media persona for and from your professional position, then keep that work related or at the very least, above the &#8220;personal&#8221; arena.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s clarify something here:  EVERYTHING about who you are, who you were, your &#8220;personas&#8221; and your public hobbies and activities are fair game for employers, WITH THE FOLLOWING CAVEAT,  that the information cannot be utilized to negatively impact any of the protected classes (big etc.. here) in the pre employment process; or the employee/employer relationship for the above reasons.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same thing as &#8220;stupid questions to ask during a job interview&#8221;&#8230;not illegal, but stupid, in that the use or appearance of use to wrongfully discriminate (as explained above) is against the law.  If I don&#8217;t know you are married with 12 kids, I can&#8217;t use (or appear to use) that information to deny you employment because you will negatively impact my group benefits.  But if you show up to your interview with your wife and 12 kids left in the reception area, I now am aware of that information, but precluded from having it become a factor in my hiring decision.</p>
<p>If you place something out there on SM sites/activities (such as your picture which obviously shows your age), it doesn&#8217;t mean you are waiving (which you can&#8217;t) your protection under the law from unlawful discrimination.</p>
<p>Makes our job as HR professionals real fun, huh?!</p>
<p>Ok, now say you are already employed like Jim.</p>
<p>If Jim goes to the local tavern four nights every week and drinks himself into a stuper, telling off color jokes and acting poorly; can Jim be fired or disciplined at work for this behavior?</p>
<p>If Jim calls his friends to come to his office after hours for drinks and off color jokes, can he be disciplined for what he says then?</p>
<p>Social Media has upped the ante, and yes, probably opened a few cans of worms for Human Resources.  Yet, let&#8217;s not forget that most of these scenarios existed prior to Social Media.  We are just now seeing more of them.</p>
<p>If you are a manager of people, the question should be whether you can be a leader to your Team after this very public behavior at which your identity is obvious.</p>
<p>Use common sense&#8230;.just like before, except now you have even more potential situations to practice.</p>
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